In this episode, Matthew Groves interviews Carl Deal who along with his directing and producing partner, Tia Lessin, directed Citizen Koch, a study of the rise of money in politics and the strategy implemented by conservative billionaires, David and Charles Koch post-election of Barack Obama as well as the infamous Citizen's United Supreme Court case. The film examines their effect on mainstream American politics. In the spirit of others films at Sundance this year, Citizen Koch, will potentially spark a heated discussion but hopefully not merely be dismissed on the basis of personal politics. It is an essential film for those who hold American democracy dear, no matter one's views. Notes: Trouble The Water was the Grand Jury Prize for Documentary @ Sundance Film Festival 2008. @ 1:47 Carl Deal is referencing that the Koch Brothers conduct the secret retreats twice yearly for Conservative Donors.